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Old 04-20-2014, 03:35 AM   #1
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Default Santa Anita Derby 1:47
I know that majority of people will tell you that times don't matter and that you cannot compare times from day to day, year to year etc.. Personally I do not 100% agree with this when it comes to stake races. Here is an example of what I am talking about. I am going to use the Santa Anita Derby and talk about the horses that ran 1:47 for a mile 1/8th. I am going to go back to 1973.

1973- Sham - 1:47:00, ran 2nd in the derby.
1975- Avatar-1:47:60, ran 2nd in the derby.
1980-Codex - 1:47:60, Was not nominated to the derby. Accidentally nominated to the Preakness by Jeff Lucas, beat the derby winner by 4.5.
1982-Muttering-1:47:60, ran 5th in the derby.
1988-Winning Colors, 1:47:80, won the derby.
1989-Sunday Silence, 1:47:60, won the derby.
1995-Larry the Legend,1:47:99, got hurt, did not run in derby.
1997-Free House,1:47:60, ran 3rd in the derby.
1998-Indian Charlie, 1:47:00, ran 3rd in the derby.
2001- Point Given, 1:47:77, ran 5th in the derby, won the Preakness and Belmont.
2012-I'll Have Another,1:47:88, Won the Derby, Preakness, did not run in the Belmont.
2014-California Chrome, 1:47:52, ??????????

So not counting California Chrome, since 1973 we have had 11 horses run 1:47 while winning the Santa Anita Derby.
Out of those 11, 3 of them won the derby, 2 others came 2nd in the derby, 2 others came 3rd in the derby, 2 others 5th in the derby, while two did not run. You also have 4 Preakness winners and 2 Belmont winners.

So what does all this mean? History tells me that not just any horse runs 1:47 in the Santa Anita Derby, it takes a special horse to do so.


FYI
1:48:00 in the Santa Anita Derby
1976, An Act, Did not run in the Kentucky Derby. Could not find any info why.
1978, Affirmed. Triple Crown Winner
1979, Flying Pastor. 5th in the Derby. Born the wrong year.
2006, Brother Derek. Dead heat for 4th in the derby.


Personally, Every year when the Santa Anita Derby is run the time means everything to me. IF a horse on what most will call a speed favoring fast track does not run 1:48 flat or lower I TOSS them.

Here are some examples since I have been betting.
1999, General Challenge, 1:48:92
2000, The Deputy, 1:49:08
2002, Came Home, 1:50:02
2003, Buddy Gil, 1:49:36
2004, Castledale,1:49:24
2005, Buzzards bay,1:49:18. Ran 5th in the Derby. Actually a better race than I expected.
2007, Tiago, 1:49:51
2011, Midnight Interlude, 1:48:56
2013, Goldencents, 1:48:78

The synthetic years were left out.
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1973- Sham - 1:47:00, ran 2nd in the derby.
1975- Avatar-1:47:60, ran 2nd in the derby.
1980-Codex - 1:47:60, Was not nominated to the derby. Accidentally nominated to the Preakness by Jeff Lucas, beat the derby winner by 4.5.
1982-Muttering-1:47:60, ran 5th in the derby.
1988-Winning Colors, 1:47:80, won the derby.
1989-Sunday Silence, 1:47:60, won the derby.
1995-Larry the Legend,1:47:99, got hurt, did not run in derby.
1997-Free House,1:47:60, ran 3rd in the derby.
1998-Indian Charlie, 1:47:00, ran 3rd in the derby.
2001- Point Given, 1:47:77, ran 5th in the derby, won the Preakness and Belmont.
2012-I'll Have Another,1:47:88, Won the Derby, Preakness, did not run in the Belmont.
2014-California Chrome, 1:47:52, Won the Derby


1:47 in the Santa Anita Derby is special. Only special horses run that fast in that race.
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