Question re: Gomez/Pioneer O'Nile

horses4courses · 04-30-2009, 06:41 PM

I believe the following to be a key Derby question this year.

Which of the 2 scenarios do YOU believe to be closer to the truth:

(a) Garrett Gomez and his agent, Ron Anderson, truly believe that Pioneer stands a better chance of winning on Saturday than Dunkirk.

OR

(b) Owner Zayat, who has made ultimatums to people within the racing industry before,
informed Anderson and GG, that they can forget about riding for him in future,
should they opt for Dunkirk.

Now, I have no reason to believe that (b) is necessarily the case, but it's an interesting possibility.

Any thoughts out there?

DUNCO · 05-01-2009, 05:10 AM

gomez didn't want to burn ba-fart ,the guys going into the hall this year and he really thinks his horse is a winner , you don't hear todd0-21 talkin, plus gomez has it easy out west

wire2wire · 05-01-2009, 05:13 AM

A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH...BUT PIONEER IS MUCH BETTER THAN DUNKIRK...w2w

cinfront · 05-01-2009, 05:51 AM

Dunkirk being the better choice for the Derby, I'll say (b). PON is more accomplished but Dunkirk is the better choice for the win with and expected improvment. If I were G.G. I'd do the same I wouldn't be thinking just DErby win, I'd be thinking livlyhood ( 10% of money earned and future mounts with top client ).

Draynay · 05-01-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wire2wire

A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH...BUT PIONEER IS MUCH BETTER THAN DUNKIRK...w2w

After the race let me know where POTN finished .........

hue21998 · 05-01-2009, 12:08 PM

and let os know where dungkirk finished

Draynay · 05-01-2009, 01:56 PM

It will be obvious.... he will be the one wearing the roses.

hue21998 · 05-01-2009, 02:10 PM

well that bets still on the table seeing your so sure.

04-30-2009, 06:41 PM	#1
horses4courses Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Question re: Gomez/Pioneer O'Nile I believe the following to be a key Derby question this year. Which of the 2 scenarios do YOU believe to be closer to the truth: (a) Garrett Gomez and his agent, Ron Anderson, truly believe that Pioneer stands a better chance of winning on Saturday than Dunkirk. OR (b) Owner Zayat, who has made ultimatums to people within the racing industry before, informed Anderson and GG, that they can forget about riding for him in future, should they opt for Dunkirk. Now, I have no reason to believe that (b) is necessarily the case, but it's an interesting possibility. Any thoughts out there?

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05-01-2009, 05:10 AM	#2
DUNCO Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: sunny florida Posts: 1,262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 34 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 0	gomez didn't want to burn ba-fart ,the guys going into the hall this year and he really thinks his horse is a winner , you don't hear todd0-21 talkin, plus gomez has it easy out west

05-01-2009, 05:13 AM	#3
wire2wire Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7,515 Thanks: 372 Thanked 140 Times in 111 Posts Rep Power: 20	A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH...BUT PIONEER IS MUCH BETTER THAN DUNKIRK...w2w

05-01-2009, 05:51 AM	#4
cinfront Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 366 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 4	Dunkirk being the better choice for the Derby, I'll say (b). PON is more accomplished but Dunkirk is the better choice for the win with and expected improvment. If I were G.G. I'd do the same I wouldn't be thinking just DErby win, I'd be thinking livlyhood ( 10% of money earned and future mounts with top client ).

05-01-2009, 12:08 PM	#6
hue21998 Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 968 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 0	and let os know where dungkirk finished

05-01-2009, 01:56 PM	#7
Draynay Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 975 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 0	It will be obvious.... he will be the one wearing the roses.

05-01-2009, 02:10 PM	#8
hue21998 Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 968 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 0	well that bets still on the table seeing your so sure.