No Breeders Cup for her !!! Travers...maybe

Draynay · 06-24-2009, 09:19 PM

Rachel's Sandbox - New York Racing Association

Everything you want to know about the 2009 HOY.

Danip · 06-25-2009, 05:46 AM

Hey Dray,
Found another site i see. I swear after you left the first few blogs after it was like i became the new you, lol. What do you think of RA not going to the BC? I actually am happy, maybe they'll move it to real dirt next time. I think the Travers will bring out a lot of ppl. You'll have all three winners of the TC races, MM, QR, POTN, and last but not least the amazing RA!!! That will be a race to watch, especially between her and QR, who would you pick between them?

Draynay · 06-25-2009, 09:56 AM

Lol... you know I love Quality Road but ... no feet no horse. What Big Brown did last year was simply amazing and it will take many years for people to realize what that horse did on paper feet. I will go with Rachel until someone proves they can catch her.

I have yet to find a single handicapper that would pick Zenyatta's Pride over Rachel in a match race. Everyone says Zenyatta's Pride would need a rabbit. Well..... if your saying she needs help is there any doubt who the better horse is ?

Every time Rachel runs this year you will be seeing history in the making so I am going to be cheering her on the rest of the year no matter who she faces. ..... unless of course Big Brown comes out of retirement ....lol...

cinfront · 06-25-2009, 02:26 PM

Well Dray Now you've found one. I would take Zenyatta any day, anytime, any track. But of course we'll never see it, cause RA's people will not allow it. Heck they said they're not running inthe Breeders Cup. Who are they ducking? That's right you got it. (Zenyatta) I don't need to say no more. And if Quality Road doesn't get a prep race under his belt, he'll get beat. What do you think the Mother Goose is? Nothing but a prep race. Justwhistledixie not in and niether is the New Star, for me, Ever Always. I'd like to see a match race with RA and her @ a mile. RA would not keep up. Done.

Danip · 06-25-2009, 06:13 PM

cinfront,
The only way in a race for Zen to beat a quality speed horse like RA is to get a rabbit, and even that may not work since she can sit off the pace if she wants. Zen cant stay more than five lengths from her and hope to win, and if she gets to close her closing kick will evaporate.

DiscreetCat · 06-25-2009, 07:03 PM

Don't forget that Zenyatta faced Hystericalady in a small field last year where Hystericalady was the lone speed. Many people picked Hystericalady that day because of her pace advantage, but Zenyatta blew right past her in the stretch just as she always does. It's true that a match race would favor Rachel's running style, but i wouldb't put it past Zenyatta to blow right past her in the stretch. That's what she does. And besides, a match race is a moot point because it's never going to happen.

PS - I thought it was incredible that Zenyatta went off @ 1/9 (or whatever it was) against Life is Sweet last time. That is one outstanding filly, and although she ran another excellent race, Zenyatta crushed her anyway. Hatrd to say she's any better than last year, but she sure didn't look any worse. Looking forward to seeing her in the Vanity this weekend.

cinfront · 06-26-2009, 05:58 AM

Hey man, that's just it, Zenyatta dosen't need a thing. She hits the 6f mark in 1:09's and that's when she starts to run. RA doesn't even stand a chance.

Danip · 06-26-2009, 05:16 PM

Hysterical Lady hated the track. Let her beat her on beat a horse that actually likes the track and has the speed.

06-24-2009, 09:19 PM	#1
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06-25-2009, 07:03 PM	#6
DiscreetCat Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,130 Thanks: 75 Thanked 195 Times in 164 Posts Rep Power: 18	Don't forget that Zenyatta faced Hystericalady in a small field last year where Hystericalady was the lone speed. Many people picked Hystericalady that day because of her pace advantage, but Zenyatta blew right past her in the stretch just as she always does. It's true that a match race would favor Rachel's running style, but i wouldb't put it past Zenyatta to blow right past her in the stretch. That's what she does. And besides, a match race is a moot point because it's never going to happen. PS - I thought it was incredible that Zenyatta went off @ 1/9 (or whatever it was) against Life is Sweet last time. That is one outstanding filly, and although she ran another excellent race, Zenyatta crushed her anyway. Hatrd to say she's any better than last year, but she sure didn't look any worse. Looking forward to seeing her in the Vanity this weekend. __________________ www.DiscreetPicks.com

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06-25-2009, 05:46 AM	#2
Danip Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 3	Hey Dray, Found another site i see. I swear after you left the first few blogs after it was like i became the new you, lol. What do you think of RA not going to the BC? I actually am happy, maybe they'll move it to real dirt next time. I think the Travers will bring out a lot of ppl. You'll have all three winners of the TC races, MM, QR, POTN, and last but not least the amazing RA!!! That will be a race to watch, especially between her and QR, who would you pick between them?

06-25-2009, 09:56 AM	#3
Draynay Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 975 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 0	Lol... you know I love Quality Road but ... no feet no horse. What Big Brown did last year was simply amazing and it will take many years for people to realize what that horse did on paper feet. I will go with Rachel until someone proves they can catch her. I have yet to find a single handicapper that would pick Zenyatta's Pride over Rachel in a match race. Everyone says Zenyatta's Pride would need a rabbit. Well..... if your saying she needs help is there any doubt who the better horse is ? Every time Rachel runs this year you will be seeing history in the making so I am going to be cheering her on the rest of the year no matter who she faces. ..... unless of course Big Brown comes out of retirement ....lol...

06-25-2009, 02:26 PM	#4
cinfront Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 366 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 4	Well Dray Now you've found one. I would take Zenyatta any day, anytime, any track. But of course we'll never see it, cause RA's people will not allow it. Heck they said they're not running inthe Breeders Cup. Who are they ducking? That's right you got it. (Zenyatta) I don't need to say no more. And if Quality Road doesn't get a prep race under his belt, he'll get beat. What do you think the Mother Goose is? Nothing but a prep race. Justwhistledixie not in and niether is the New Star, for me, Ever Always. I'd like to see a match race with RA and her @ a mile. RA would not keep up. Done.

06-25-2009, 06:13 PM	#5
Danip Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 3	cinfront, The only way in a race for Zen to beat a quality speed horse like RA is to get a rabbit, and even that may not work since she can sit off the pace if she wants. Zen cant stay more than five lengths from her and hope to win, and if she gets to close her closing kick will evaporate.

06-26-2009, 05:58 AM	#7
cinfront Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 366 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 4	Hey man, that's just it, Zenyatta dosen't need a thing. She hits the 6f mark in 1:09's and that's when she starts to run. RA doesn't even stand a chance.

06-26-2009, 05:16 PM	#8
Danip Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 3	Hysterical Lady hated the track. Let her beat her on beat a horse that actually likes the track and has the speed.