Horses to toss for the 2010 Derby.

Draynay · 05-12-2009, 09:12 AM

Any horse by Unbridled Song. Enough is enough... sons of this horse belong at a mile not a 1 1/4.

Todd Pletcher trained horse.... toss ! Until he wins a Derby it is safe to say he has no idea how to get one ready when he is 0 for 24.

The winner of the Santa Anita Derby.... 0 for last 20 TOSS !!!

Any horse that has not raced at 2. Toss ! horses with strong foundation will win this race from now on.

Any horse that has not raced 1 1/8th Toss !

Any horse off more than 5 weeks .... Toss !

Any horse with only 3 races...... Toss ! There are no more Big Browns out there.

05-12-2009, 09:22 AM

Just Imagine When Todd Pletcher Breaks His Cherry,he Could Go On A Long Tear Though...with The Owners He Has Backing Him With Tremendous Two Year Olds Year After Year Its Only A Matter Of Time............baffert Was On A Roll For A While Then Hit The Drought And Came Right Back This Year With A Quality Colt............you Seem To Be To Close Minded In My Opinion To Ever Be A Serious Horse Player...........you Just Compiled A List Of Automatic Tosses For Next Year And This Year You Only Had That Monster Named Quality Road,the One That Didnt Make It To The Big Dance............keep An Open Mind When Handicapping...things Arent Always As They Appear To Be.............

Draynay · 05-12-2009, 09:35 AM

The sad part is my number 1 rule in handcapping the Derby is to see which horse ran 6 furlongs the fastest at 1 1/8th and won. The horse that ran it the fastest was the winner. He did not win the race but if you watch the race and the very fast splits he posted you see where the speed came from after running a very slow half in the Derby. BUT who knew the horse could sit back and become a closer when it never had before.

InTheFog · 05-12-2009, 10:24 AM

Another Horse to toss in the 2010 Derby is the one I pick.

Draynay · 05-12-2009, 10:37 AM

Lol.... its hard not to feel that way after what took place in this Derby. Rachel being sent to the Oaks when she was clearly a fantastic horse, Quality Road and IWR getting hurt..... strange....very strange..... it set things up for a fluke to win.

hue21998 · 05-12-2009, 01:33 PM

The flukes owners made alottttt of money, i guess their saying call it fluke all you want, he beat all comers including the ones that didnt make it there

DiscreetCat · 05-12-2009, 02:14 PM

One loss by your "easy winner" Dunkirk, and all of a sudden you're doing a complete 180?

"Any horse by Unbridled Song. Enough is enough... sons of this horse belong at a mile not a 1 1/4."

"Todd Pletcher trained horse.... toss ! Until he wins a Derby it is safe to say he has no idea how to get one ready when he is 0 for 24."

"Any horse that has not raced at 2. Toss ! horses with strong foundation will win this race from now on."

"Any horse with only 3 races...... Toss ! There are no more Big Browns out there."

Draynay · 05-12-2009, 02:57 PM

After Rachel's connections decided to keep her out and Quality Road went down there was only one thing to do. Pick a horse....any horse and I did. The sad part is his Derby was over in 3 seconds... when he almost fell at the start it was over it was obvious he wanted no part of running in that mud.

THE NUMBERS tell you to toss Pletcher horses... THE NUMBERS tell you not to consider a horse who has no races at 2. THE NUMBERS tell you no Unbridled Song colt has ever hit the board in the Derby.

Can a fluke happen....yes this Derby proves that but if you go to the track betting for a fluke to happen you better hope you choose the right fluke.

DiscreetCat · 05-12-2009, 04:30 PM

What's making me pretty sick right now is that i had a Derby future on Rachel Alexandra @ 125/1, and she didn't run, but now she's going in the Preakness. Real fair.

FlyinLate · 05-12-2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscreetCat

What's making me pretty sick right now is that i had a Derby future on Rachel Alexandra @ 125/1, and she didn't run, but now she's going in the Preakness. Real fair.

Ouch.

And as for Derby 2010, the only horse that will be an automatic toss for me is the one Draynay selects

hue21998 · 05-12-2009, 04:42 PM

turfman sure seemed to be pretty confident in how MTB came on top for him.

turfman · 05-12-2009, 05:47 PM

the good thing about horse racing is what do you say...once the gate opens....i will not have
a pick until friday night.....shit, things go bad over night.....the great cigar had won 16 in a row
then ran into siphon..who made him go mind blistering splits...6 fur 108....and then
dare and go his stable mate blew by the champ.....it's a horse race....the only way to
win is get to the wire first.....i wish you all the best, as i will have 2 picks in the hollywood
park $5,000 triple crown contest...i just hope i pick the winner to stay in the contest..
50-1 or 1-2.....i need the winner.........

hue21998 · 05-12-2009, 05:55 PM

I think each n everyone here no matter what our opinions may be on horses and racing are all pulling for you on this one.

05-12-2009, 09:12 AM	#1
Draynay Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 975 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 0	Horses to toss for the 2010 Derby. Any horse by Unbridled Song. Enough is enough... sons of this horse belong at a mile not a 1 1/4. Todd Pletcher trained horse.... toss ! Until he wins a Derby it is safe to say he has no idea how to get one ready when he is 0 for 24. The winner of the Santa Anita Derby.... 0 for last 20 TOSS !!! Any horse that has not raced at 2. Toss ! horses with strong foundation will win this race from now on. Any horse that has not raced 1 1/8th Toss ! Any horse off more than 5 weeks .... Toss ! Any horse with only 3 races...... Toss ! There are no more Big Browns out there.

05-12-2009, 02:14 PM	#7
DiscreetCat Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,130 Thanks: 75 Thanked 195 Times in 164 Posts Rep Power: 18	One loss by your "easy winner" Dunkirk, and all of a sudden you're doing a complete 180? "Any horse by Unbridled Song. Enough is enough... sons of this horse belong at a mile not a 1 1/4." "Todd Pletcher trained horse.... toss ! Until he wins a Derby it is safe to say he has no idea how to get one ready when he is 0 for 24." "Any horse that has not raced at 2. Toss ! horses with strong foundation will win this race from now on." "Any horse with only 3 races...... Toss ! There are no more Big Browns out there." __________________ www.DiscreetPicks.com

05-12-2009, 04:30 PM	#9
DiscreetCat Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,130 Thanks: 75 Thanked 195 Times in 164 Posts Rep Power: 18	What's making me pretty sick right now is that i had a Derby future on Rachel Alexandra @ 125/1, and she didn't run, but now she's going in the Preakness. Real fair. __________________ www.DiscreetPicks.com

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05-12-2009, 09:22 AM	#2
gambler911 Guest Posts: n/a	Just Imagine When Todd Pletcher Breaks His Cherry,he Could Go On A Long Tear Though...with The Owners He Has Backing Him With Tremendous Two Year Olds Year After Year Its Only A Matter Of Time............baffert Was On A Roll For A While Then Hit The Drought And Came Right Back This Year With A Quality Colt............you Seem To Be To Close Minded In My Opinion To Ever Be A Serious Horse Player...........you Just Compiled A List Of Automatic Tosses For Next Year And This Year You Only Had That Monster Named Quality Road,the One That Didnt Make It To The Big Dance............keep An Open Mind When Handicapping...things Arent Always As They Appear To Be.............

05-12-2009, 09:35 AM	#3
Draynay Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 975 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 0	The sad part is my number 1 rule in handcapping the Derby is to see which horse ran 6 furlongs the fastest at 1 1/8th and won. The horse that ran it the fastest was the winner. He did not win the race but if you watch the race and the very fast splits he posted you see where the speed came from after running a very slow half in the Derby. BUT who knew the horse could sit back and become a closer when it never had before.

05-12-2009, 10:24 AM	#4
InTheFog Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 596 Thanks: 7 Thanked 58 Times in 8 Posts Rep Power: 6	Another Horse to toss in the 2010 Derby is the one I pick.

05-12-2009, 10:37 AM	#5
Draynay Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 975 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 0	Lol.... its hard not to feel that way after what took place in this Derby. Rachel being sent to the Oaks when she was clearly a fantastic horse, Quality Road and IWR getting hurt..... strange....very strange..... it set things up for a fluke to win.

05-12-2009, 01:33 PM	#6
hue21998 Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 968 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 0	The flukes owners made alottttt of money, i guess their saying call it fluke all you want, he beat all comers including the ones that didnt make it there

05-12-2009, 02:57 PM	#8
Draynay Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 975 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 0	After Rachel's connections decided to keep her out and Quality Road went down there was only one thing to do. Pick a horse....any horse and I did. The sad part is his Derby was over in 3 seconds... when he almost fell at the start it was over it was obvious he wanted no part of running in that mud. THE NUMBERS tell you to toss Pletcher horses... THE NUMBERS tell you not to consider a horse who has no races at 2. THE NUMBERS tell you no Unbridled Song colt has ever hit the board in the Derby. Can a fluke happen....yes this Derby proves that but if you go to the track betting for a fluke to happen you better hope you choose the right fluke.

05-12-2009, 04:42 PM	#11
hue21998 Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 968 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 0	turfman sure seemed to be pretty confident in how MTB came on top for him.

05-12-2009, 05:47 PM	#12
turfman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SO. CALIFORNIA Posts: 3,064 Thanks: 1 Thanked 58 Times in 55 Posts Rep Power: 11	the good thing about horse racing is what do you say...once the gate opens....i will not have a pick until friday night.....shit, things go bad over night.....the great cigar had won 16 in a row then ran into siphon..who made him go mind blistering splits...6 fur 108....and then dare and go his stable mate blew by the champ.....it's a horse race....the only way to win is get to the wire first.....i wish you all the best, as i will have 2 picks in the hollywood park $5,000 triple crown contest...i just hope i pick the winner to stay in the contest.. 50-1 or 1-2.....i need the winner.........

05-12-2009, 05:55 PM	#13
hue21998 Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 968 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 0	I think each n everyone here no matter what our opinions may be on horses and racing are all pulling for you on this one.