Final blowouts for the Santa Anita Derby contenders

DiscreetCat · 04-01-2009, 03:02 AM

from Larry Zap's You Tube page:

YouTube - who do you like...Santa Anita Derby 2009

Draynay · 04-01-2009, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscreetCat

from Larry Zap's You Tube page:

YouTube - who do you like...Santa Anita Derby 2009

Pampelmousse wins this race and exposes the problem with Pioneer of the Nile.... he is just too slow. California horses are again below average and will matter little in the Derby. The winner of the Santa Anita has not won the Derby in 20 years. It may be another 20 before they do it again.

rayphil · 04-01-2009, 12:47 PM

The pamplemousse will win this even though they threw a rabbit in the race....Draynay this is one of the strongest years for cali 3yo's. You cant always go on stats either because the year when the ny bred gelding funny cide won...

DiscreetCat · 04-01-2009, 04:46 PM

Silver Charm won the Derby, and i think he missed by a nose to Free House in the Santa Anita Derby. Fusaichi Pegasus was California-based, as was Giacomo. Santa Anita Derby winner Point Given was a big favorite in the Derby, then went on to win the Preakness and Belmont. Caifornia-based Congaree ran a huge race in the Derby that same year.

Going by Draynay's logic, I Want Revenge could win the Derby this year, and it would be another example of the failure of California horses.

RightAngle · 04-02-2009, 03:01 PM

Agree with DC. I've always felt the So Cal based horses were as strong as any. Not mentioned was 1992 SA Derby winner A.P. Indy who had to scratch day of race but won the Belmont and Horse of the Year as a 3-year old. My only concern now is with the new synthetic surface, top contenders may choose to train and race elsewhere.

Has any horse won a major prep on a non-dirt surface and won the Derby? I guess the Blue Grass has been run on synthetic for a while now?

Edward

DiscreetCat · 04-02-2009, 03:06 PM

Street Sense won the Derby in 2007 after a final prep in the Blue Grass over Keeneland's polytrack surface. Hard Spun ran second that same year, after a final prep in the Lane's End over Turfway's polytrack surface.

DUNCO · 04-02-2009, 05:14 PM

pioneer of the nile will go 4 wide again and still beat this bunch of want-to -bees, please tell me the last three year old that went five wide and won a grade 2 and by the way in that race the Wood superstar ran third and moved to NY

Draynay · 04-03-2009, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rayphil

The pamplemousse will win this even though they threw a rabbit in the race....Draynay this is one of the strongest years for cali 3yo's. You cant always go on stats either because the year when the ny bred gelding funny cide won...

It looked like the Pamplemousse show but with the Z Day rabbit in the race I am going with Mr. Hot Stuff. Z Day is faster than the Pamplemousse and if he chases Z Day the race could fall apart.

I am going with Mr. Hot Stuff for the upset.

InTheFog · 04-03-2009, 02:57 PM

The Pamplemousse will pull beside Z Day and tell him " This is not Z Day for you".

04-01-2009, 03:02 AM	#1
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04-01-2009, 04:46 PM	#4
DiscreetCat Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,128 Thanks: 75 Thanked 195 Times in 164 Posts Rep Power: 18	Silver Charm won the Derby, and i think he missed by a nose to Free House in the Santa Anita Derby. Fusaichi Pegasus was California-based, as was Giacomo. Santa Anita Derby winner Point Given was a big favorite in the Derby, then went on to win the Preakness and Belmont. Caifornia-based Congaree ran a huge race in the Derby that same year. Going by Draynay's logic, I Want Revenge could win the Derby this year, and it would be another example of the failure of California horses. __________________ www.DiscreetPicks.com

04-02-2009, 03:06 PM	#6
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04-01-2009, 12:47 PM	#3
rayphil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Baltimore,Md. Posts: 1,906 Thanks: 78 Thanked 53 Times in 47 Posts Rep Power: 8	The pamplemousse will win this even though they threw a rabbit in the race....Draynay this is one of the strongest years for cali 3yo's. You cant always go on stats either because the year when the ny bred gelding funny cide won...

04-02-2009, 03:01 PM	#5
RightAngle Administrator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 255 Thanks: 16 Thanked 74 Times in 9 Posts Rep Power: 10	Agree with DC. I've always felt the So Cal based horses were as strong as any. Not mentioned was 1992 SA Derby winner A.P. Indy who had to scratch day of race but won the Belmont and Horse of the Year as a 3-year old. My only concern now is with the new synthetic surface, top contenders may choose to train and race elsewhere. Has any horse won a major prep on a non-dirt surface and won the Derby? I guess the Blue Grass has been run on synthetic for a while now? Edward

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DUNCO Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: sunny florida Posts: 1,262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 34 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 0	pioneer of the nile will go 4 wide again and still beat this bunch of want-to -bees, please tell me the last three year old that went five wide and won a grade 2 and by the way in that race the Wood superstar ran third and moved to NY

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InTheFog Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 596 Thanks: 7 Thanked 58 Times in 8 Posts Rep Power: 6	The Pamplemousse will pull beside Z Day and tell him " This is not Z Day for you".