http://www.horseracingtalk.com Horse Racing Description en Sun, 05 Sep 2010 18:06:08 GMT vBulletin 1 http://www.horseracingtalk.com/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.horseracingtalk.com http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/sunday-sept-5-2010-a-11173.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:16:09 GMT We're on the road. Visited Ruiidoso Downs Friday for the first time in 40 years and the turnout was hugely disappointing. R.D. Hubbard had the place fully staffed(unlike some major meets) but there was no betting fevor. Hubbard says he may be forced to move the melet elsewhere if a Sept., 21 measure is not approved. If the voters approve a gross receipts tax in Lincoln County three-sixteenths of a percent it would give Hubbard a credit roughly of $750,000. I was shocked at the lack of play on Friday, two days prior to the track's biggest day The All American, but noted one graphic reason. I visited the Ruidoso slot machine club and left shaking my head. Most of the machines were one-dollar, something which is simply mind boggling. Business in the racetrack casino is down $58% since 2003. Hubbard might want to replace a majority of those $1 machines with the nickel and quarter machines for starters. You can go not too many furlongs away to several plush Indian casinos. Funny but true. A long time ago we wrote about the dumb move horsemen made when they didn't want to deal with the Indians reservations in California. Look who's in the driver's seat now? It was the single most turning point in SoCal racing.

Here's a couple of opinions for Sunday's races as I continue making my way to my new setting in Pearl River, Louisiana. Twirling Candy should win today's fifth at Del Mar but you don't need me to tell you that. The opening odds-on price is simply not going to enhance your bankroll.

6th Saratoga--Sterling Silver(6) was victim of a horrible trip last time. Sixth early and full of run he was locked in on the rail. He was checked to the 1/2(-1), checked before reaching the top(-1) and checked again midway through the stretch(-2) on August 15. Sterling Silver(6) can graduate the maiden ranks and opens at 3-1.

8th Del Mar--I realize it's a tall order but the value in today's Torrey Pines is Malibu Pier(2) at 5-1. Malibu Pier was lengths best making debut on the lawn. Between foes early Malibu Pier was dropped to rail at the top. Malibu Pier was checked and broke stride to the top(-2), recovered, surged late, and galloped out strongly on July 15th. ]]> Horse Racing Forum warrenthebull http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/sunday-sept-5-2010-a-11173.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/sunday-plays-11172.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:56:43 GMT Yesterday could not have gone much worse. On top of only having one place winner in my 4 listed picks yesterday, I got creamed on the Giant Oak race during the stretch run shenanigans that occured. Then, to top it off, I attempted to punch in a quick win/place wager on Tellakelly as I walked out the door, and accidentally drafted the wager instead of submitting it (she ended up destroying the field, likely BC Juvy Filly fav).
Anyways, new day, new races, and time to turn the tides.

All wagers today are win only @ 7/2 or less and win/place at 4/1 or better.

Monmouth Park
Race 10
#3 Sok Sok - Hard trying colt, always right there. The obvious scratch of Checklist will hurt the pace scenario, but I dont think this field will let the 6 run away with things. I'd expect constant pressure to soften him up just enough.

Race 11
#3 Nownownow
Consider his last a tightener. In this one, Get Serious was allow to set dawdling fractions on the front end rating him comfortably. Here, the 5 and 6 should be showing him much more pressure than his last. Nownownow will be tightened up from his last, and actually showed he has SOME tactical speed in his last. Look for this one to make one big run as they turn for home.

Saratoga
Race 9
#6 Citrus Kid
Citrus Kid, in his first race off a lengthy layoff, showed some minor gain in the stretch of his last race against the likes of Interactif (who would be 1-5 in this field). His pedigree shouldnt limit his distance much and he is up against a lot of horses who are not consistent winners. A small field should prevent traffic trouble and he should get the right trip.

Race 10
#1 Stopspendingmaria
Her maiden win was ultra impressive. She rocketed off with ease opening up in the stretch. She came back in Schueryville (sp?) and took all the damage on the front while running in the slop @ 21 4/5 and 45 3/5 while constantly battling co-favorite Lets Get Fiscal. Halfway down the stretch she put him away (he faded badly) and then eventually got run down by Le Mi Geux. Im hoping they just float her out and see how it goes, take the lead if they can, but not battle every step of the lead.

Del Mar
Race 1
#2 Indian Gracey
Impressive two starts. Fought hard vs. Tellakelly in his last to lose by 2 lengths and well clear of remainder of the field. Very confident in this one today (just hoping to get 6/5).

Race 6
#6 Miss Pleasant
Always been a board favorite of some of ours. Her last proved she doesn't need the front (and Im very thankful for that or I'd likely be passing on this speed filled race). Look for her to sit just off the pace and run the leaders down.

Race 8
#2 Malibu Pier
I absolutely love this horse. Her maiden win was as good as they get when she overcame tremendous traffic trouble to steer out and mow them down. She runs back in a very competitive open allowance race where she set all the fractions, was challenged by several, and put them all away. Hermana, who ran on well late, proved form and did so again Friday when he ran a nice third in a similar field. ]]> Horse Racing Forum FlyinLate http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/sunday-plays-11172.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/full-saratoga-monmouth-card-11171.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:18:06 GMT LISTED IN HORSE RACING TALK...THANKS...w2w LISTED IN HORSE RACING TALK...THANKS...w2w ]]> Horse Racing Forum wire2wire http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/full-saratoga-monmouth-card-11171.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/monmouth-park-card-sunday-11170.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:17:05 GMT 1st #5 568...4th #1 147...6th #2 279...8th #2 247...9th #3...10th #1...w2w 1st #5 568...4th #1 147...6th #2 279...8th #2 247...9th #3...10th #1...w2w ]]> Horse Racing Forum wire2wire http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/monmouth-park-card-sunday-11170.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/saratoga-sunday-11169.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:19:55 GMT 2WPS for all my picks at Saratoga would profit me -$57.70(Terrible) Not including the Kent Desormeaux show angle. 4th Race: #1 Beths Kitten 9th Race: #1 Turf Melody 10th Race: #2 Abide Good Luck $20 to show on all KDesormeax horses on the grass: KDesormeax was taken off of all of his mounts yesterday after a spill. So there were no plays yesterday. As far as I know he wont be riding again for the remainder of the meet at Saratoga. Ended up profiting $219 for that system which is not really that bad considering there was no handicapping involved! +$219* 2WPS for all my picks at Saratoga would profit me -$57.70(Terrible) Not including the Kent Desormeaux show angle.

4th Race: #1 Beths Kitten

9th Race: #1 Turf Melody

10th Race: #2 Abide

Good Luck




$20 to show on all KDesormeax horses on the grass: KDesormeax was taken off of all of his mounts yesterday after a spill. So there were no plays yesterday. As far as I know he wont be riding again for the remainder of the meet at Saratoga. Ended up profiting $219 for that system which is not really that bad considering there was no handicapping involved!

+$219* ]]> Horse Racing Forum Mikenyce http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/saratoga-sunday-11169.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/spa-sunday-11168.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:23:33 GMT $3 Ex box $2 DDs $1 Pick 3s

R1
#2 Writingonthewall w2w last 2. Fast turf today
#6 Summer Patriot Ramon back on after last troubled trip
#4 Stevil always in the mix

R2
#5 Texas Aggie off since May but steady works
#7 Include the Cat stretches out to help close
#8 Sortilege 3rd behind 2 next out winners in last

R3
#3 Bea Bet 2nd start new barn adds blinkers
#6 Magdalena Girl good race will be in the mix
#9 La Belle Gabrielle evenly may be the needed pace here

R4
#4 Up for Love troubled last out stretches out here
#8 Brunelli already beat much of this company
#10 Jacob's Dream looks in great form to close in the mix

R5
#6 Ginger Snapit can you have more of a bad trip and still 2nd
#4 Roots Run Deep Should be a Rice A Ramon D a Saratoga treat
#9 Soinlovewithuam ya think Rice wants some of the action here

R6
#2B Deanaallen'skitten Steady Turf improvements and good works
#1 Chardonniere may be scary Route debut but a good closing horse
#5 Smart Farming Potential with the right pace

R7
#2 Ash Zee class of this field
#5 Proclaim Looks for a big push here
#3 Film Charm If can stay off pace will be right there

R8
#1 Zodiac Girl Drops in class stretches out can we fire is the question
#9 Alykela May not get there today but like the potential here at a great price
#10 Kan N Klear 50% Drop gotta open some eyes

R9
#1 Turf Melody my speed figures and Ramon in the straps leads me to play this one
#2 Fantastico Roberto Blinkers off lets see what happens
#4 Mystic Just keeps getting better and better

R10
#1 Abide loved his first race. May be last race at decent odds
#7 R Heat Lightning well placed. Good trip here can be real tough beat
#4 Valiant Passion New Barn with decent % Very nice maiden

R11
#4 She's a Ketch Cant get much better works than this
#10 Curlina 2nd out for new barn should improve
#6 Disarming Throw out the last one this horse can be right in the mix ]]> Horse Racing Forum Horsin~Aro http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/spa-sunday-11168.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/delmar-picks-9-4-a-11167.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:26:31 GMT

these are my picks for DELMAR [ ]=wins IMO

DELMAR PICKs
R5=3[7]10
R6=5.8.[9]
R7=[13].10.1
R8=[2].6.10
R9=1.4*.7.6
R10=[1]28

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R4=[5].6.8
R3=9.[8].2
R2=4.[5].6 ]]> Horse Racing Forum KP-HR2k9 http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/delmar-picks-9-4-a-11167.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/stakes-plays-11166.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:50:45 GMT Saratoga
Race 7
#3 Fantasia

Race 9
#1 Vineyard Haven
Ex Box with Checklist and Big Drama

Monmouth
Race 10
#11 Caminadora

Race 11
#5 Printing Press (Watch this one's replay, ultra impressive).
Make sure to back him up with place/show money. ]]> Horse Racing Forum FlyinLate http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/stakes-plays-11166.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/spa-picks-9-4-a-11165.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:06:45 GMT around 10am i left with my netbook ,where i was going i wasn't gonna have internet access
so i took the PP's for Delmar ,Saratoga , Woodbine,

i started with Delmar, handicapping the card , an the only 3pp's i didn't have were R1/R5/R10
i was looking at the pick6 first so i'll go back in a few to get the picks for th 3races i didn't have.
then i did the Spa, woodbine i didn't get a chance to look at yet but i do have the Pp's

this is what i came up with i know some race already happen
at the spa my battery went low an only git to race 8 , now that i'm home i'll finish handicapping the rest ...

[ ] = who i think should win the race

DELMAR PICKX
R5=
R6=5.8.[9]
R7=[13].10.1
R8=[2].6.10
R9=1.4*.7.6
R10=

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R4=[5].6.8
R3=9.[8].2
R2=4.[5].6

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SPA PICKS

R1=1.[2].11
R2=[9].7.3
R3=7.8.2.[1]
R4=1.[4].14
R5=13.10.[9]
R6=15.5.[4]
R7=234[8]
R8=6.[8].11 ]]> Horse Racing Forum KP-HR2k9 http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/spa-picks-9-4-a-11165.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/saturday-play-discreetpicks-com-11164.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:00:34 GMT Saratoga - Race 6

#7 Economic Summit (10/1 ml)

I wasn't expecting to be on anyone but Astrology here (more on him in a second), but this expensive OBS grad for Violette comes into the race off three straight drills with the older Litigation Risk, who came out of those drills to win an allowance race by open lengths last Saturday at this same distance. That's hard to argue with @ 10/1. Today's rider Maragh is only 1-for-21 with Violette, but guess who the winner was? Yep, it was Litigation Risk last Saturday. Big value here.

As for Astrology, you probably remember that i was huge on him in his debut, and apparently i wasn't the only one, as he got bet down from a 5/1 morning line to go off as the 8/5 favorite. That was due in large part (i'm guessing) to the fact that he had worked several times with Wine Police, a huge open-lengths winner for Asmussen earlier in the meet who figures to go off as the second choice in the Grade 1 Hopeful next week. As for the actual race, Astrology did indeed run well, battling head-and-head for the lead most of the way while caught in tight quarters along the rail. He eventually gave it up late and tired to third, but i do believe he was probably a bit intimidated along the inside, and i fully expect him to move forward in start #2 today. As for his recent training, he worked with the solid older stakes-type Captain Cherokee on Aug 25, and it's definitely worth noting that Asmussen had also trained Kantharos with that one, so it's clear he still holds this horse in high regard. All that being said, Astrology figures to get bet pretty hard again today (his 4/1 ml notwithstanding), so i think it's clear where the value lies. Also, assuming Economic Summit shows speed here (which seems pretty likely), it's possible Astrology gets caught down along the rail again. Wouldn't shock me though if Astrology wins and wins big, so if you're betting exactas (or whatever) he's clearly a must-use. Could very well offer some value with our longshot, too.

HRT record:

71 for 263 (27%)

$602.40 mutuels ($8.48 avg) ]]> Horse Racing Forum DiscreetCat http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/saturday-play-discreetpicks-com-11164.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/philly-r4-7-a-11163.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:34:36 GMT #7 YES IT'S THE TRUTH ML 12-1
Going to get bet down to maybe 5-2 7-2. Win bet ]]> Horse Racing Forum Horsin~Aro http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/philly-r4-7-a-11163.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/i-love-horse-today-11162.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:15:51 GMT Horse name I'm Steppin' It Up
Notes won like freak never asked
Activity type Entry
Activity date 09-04-2010
Track Delaware Park
Surface Turf
Distance 1 Mile
Race number 7
Purse $40,000
Race type Allowance
Post position 4
Jockey Napravnik A R ]]> Horse Racing Forum randyf http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/i-love-horse-today-11162.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/spa-saturday-11161.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 11:41:01 GMT $3 Ex box $2 DDs $1 Pick 3s
**Playing Dominguez today make or break for him to rank for the meet**

R1
#2 Rose Catherine 4/4 turf sprint with bullet work
#10 Lookalike 2 back may be a throwout and best price in field of wide open
#6 Karakorum Elektra Domingues up

R2
#8 Crea's Law Bullet work last week should be right there
#5 Cooper River Stretches out
#3 Exley Speed with 2nd out

R3
#4 Brother Bird Steady improvement in good company
#8 Safe Trip Shortens up and keeps laparoux
#1 Mr. Fantasy down in class after 2 2nds with poor breaks

R4
#1 Solar Panel taking a stab here. Setup of PPs always kills me when stay off of
#4 Golly Day Stretches out should help closing ability
#12 Shimmering Forest should set pace here see if in better form

R5
#4 Jaguar Paw Can be dangerous if they can work out the greeness
#2 Bellhouse Stretches out for possible liking of turf
#6 Souper Spectacular expected big time horse had a couple bad pinball tries

R6
#12 Praetereo don’t know ton about for 1ster but nice lineage decent works
#4 Astrology stalked well in 1st out
#7 Economic Summit solid works, high % barn in similar

R7
#2 My Princess Jess Dominguez up very good works cuts back in distance
#8 Striking Dancer Mcpeek with a steadily improving horse
#9 Solo Piano Mott and Mr. D. with improving horse

R8
#2 Midnight Billy Steady methodical improvement
#5 Duke of Naples Tired in what may be a throwout race
#11 Pegasus Tommy D Dominguez up

R9
#1 a-Vineyard Haven If he don’t tire may w2w
#8 Warrior's Reward Are we going to close or are we going to stalk
#5 Charitable Man Dominguez up on what looks to be good form

R10
#2 Mine That Bird New barn, Change of Jocks
#3 Quality Road Will be a single on many DDs pick 3s,4s
#1 Convocation will need a very good race but better than the rest

R11
#10 City Train seems to like the distance and the turf. tough with good trip
#3 Runaway Jim Bullet work for turf
#5 Bourbon Bandit Steady improvement in works ]]> Horse Racing Forum Horsin~Aro http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/spa-saturday-11161.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/disregard-penn-national-picks-11160.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 11:06:50 GMT listed in thread...THESE ARE THE PICKS...1st 32 2/6 box...2nd #8 168....3rd #2 235...4th #6 5/6/10...5th #2...6th #9...7th #2...9th #1...SORRY FOR THE SCREW UP...w2w listed in thread...THESE ARE THE PICKS...1st 32 2/6 box...2nd #8 168....3rd #2 235...4th #6 5/6/10...5th #2...6th #9...7th #2...9th #1...SORRY FOR THE SCREW UP...w2w ]]> Horse Racing Forum wire2wire http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/disregard-penn-national-picks-11160.html http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/saratoga-saturday-11159.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 10:12:41 GMT 2WPS for all my picks at Saratoga would profit me -$47.90(Terrible) Not including the Kent Desormeaux show angle. 3rd Race: #7 Flying Pegasus 9th Race: #1/1a Vineuard Haven /Girolamo GOODLUCK $20 to show on all KDesormeax horses on the grass: KDesormeax was taken off of all of his mounts yesterday after a spill. So there were no plays yesterday. As far as I know he wont be riding again for the remainder of the meet at Saratoga. Ended up profiting $219 for that system which is not really that bad considering there was no handicapping involved! +$219* 2WPS for all my picks at Saratoga would profit me -$47.90(Terrible) Not including the Kent Desormeaux show angle.

3rd Race: #7 Flying Pegasus

9th Race: #1/1a Vineuard Haven /Girolamo

GOODLUCK




$20 to show on all KDesormeax horses on the grass: KDesormeax was taken off of all of his mounts yesterday after a spill. So there were no plays yesterday. As far as I know he wont be riding again for the remainder of the meet at Saratoga. Ended up profiting $219 for that system which is not really that bad considering there was no handicapping involved!

+$219* ]]> Horse Racing Forum Mikenyce http://www.horseracingtalk.com/horse-racing-forum/saratoga-saturday-11159.html