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DiscreetCat
01-05-2012, 07:37 AM
Gulfstream - Race 8

#7 Late Night Action (8/1 ml)

I'm sure you guys remember Dan and Sheila, who was a sharp winner for us a few weeks ago. Well, Late Night Action had worked head-up with Dan and Sheila a couple of weeks before that one's debut, and you may also remember that this one was entered (and scratched) as part of a two-horse entry with with our winner Thunder Moccasin a couple of weeks ago. Incidentally, Thunder Moccasin had also appeared to work with Dan and Sheila before his own winning debut. Looks like this one may be part of Pletcher's upper echelon of young 3yo's, judging by the company he's been keeping. Worth noting that this is part of an uncoupled entry for Pletcher today, with Velazquez named aboard the other one, but Pletcher's numbers with Castellano are just as good as they are with Velazquez, and it's also interesting that Castellano winds up here rather than on one of the two Chad Brown entrants (for whom he rides a lot of live horses). Suspect this one can run a little; big price too.

HRT record:

84 for 313 (27%)

$697.40 mutuels ($8.30 avg)

fbwinners
01-05-2012, 09:47 AM
I'm on the 1 in this race at price as well. Also the word is the 12 outworked a stakes horse and they are worried about the post. But book for next out.


gl, fb

dirtyshirt
01-05-2012, 12:10 PM
Gulfstream - Race 8

#7 Late Night Action (8/1 ml)

I'm sure you guys remember Dan and Sheila, who was a sharp winner for us a few weeks ago. Well, Late Night Action had worked head-up with Dan and Sheila a couple of weeks before that one's debut, and you may also remember that this one was entered (and scratched) as part of a two-horse entry with with our winner Thunder Moccasin a couple of weeks ago. Incidentally, Thunder Moccasin had also appeared to work with Dan and Sheila before his own winning debut. Looks like this one may be part of Pletcher's upper echelon of young 3yo's, judging by the company he's been keeping. Worth noting that this is part of an uncoupled entry for Pletcher today, with Velazquez named aboard the other one, but Pletcher's numbers with Castellano are just as good as they are with Velazquez, and it's also interesting that Castellano winds up here rather than on one of the two Chad Brown entrants (for whom he rides a lot of live horses). Suspect this one can run a little; big price too.

HRT record:

84 for 313 (27%)

$697.40 mutuels ($8.30 avg)


Thanks for the plays guys. I needed some action today. I bet some P3's, might bet W/P too.


Gulfstream Park 6 $1.00 P3 8/1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10/7 ONLINE $10.00
Gulfstream Park 6 $1.00 P3 8/1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10/7 ONLINE $10.00
Gulfstream Park 6 $1.00 P3 1,3,4,6,8,9,11/1,10/7 ONLINE $14.00
Gulfstream Park 6 $1.00 P3 3,4,8,9,11/1,2,7,10/7 ONLINE $20.00
Gulfstream Park 6 $1.00 P3 3,4,8,9,11/1,2,7,10/7 ONLINE $20.00
Gulfstream Park 6 $1.00 P3 3,4,8,9,11/1,2,7,10/1,7 ONLINE $40.00
Gulfstream Park 6 $1.00 P3 3,4,8,9,11/1,2,7,10/1,7 ONLINE $40.00

irish32
01-05-2012, 01:09 PM
W0w!!!!! Fb

dirtyshirt
01-05-2012, 01:12 PM
I'm on the 1 in this race at price as well. Also the word is the 12 outworked a stakes horse and they are worried about the post. But book for next out.


gl, fb

Owe you a beer. Or 2.

Gulfstream Park 8 $5.00 EX 1,7/1,6,7,12 ONLINE $30.00 $0.00

fbwinners
01-05-2012, 01:36 PM
I'm on the 1 in this race at price as well. Also the word is the 12 outworked a stakes horse and they are worried about the post. But book for next out.


gl, fb

8th race - Gulfstream Park - January 05, 2012
Video Race Replay

Pgm Horse Win Place Show
1 Gentlemen's Bet 69.40 26.60 17.40
6 Nonno's Boy 6.40 5.00
12 Good Morning Diva 22.20

DiscreetCat
01-05-2012, 03:37 PM
I'm on the 1 in this race at price as well. Also the word is the 12 outworked a stakes horse and they are worried about the post. But book for next out.


gl, fb

Unbelievable......congratulations!!!

dirtyshirt
01-05-2012, 03:47 PM
I was rooting for the 6 to hold off the "other" horse late. That other horse was the other fucking horse FB gave me. Would have paid stupid. Maybe I needed a tri. Thank you again.

2W2P2S
01-05-2012, 08:42 PM
I've been doing this a long time.......nothing good is going to come out of what happened in the pick 3 sequence of races 6,7,8 today.
$11/$49.60/$69.40 and the pick 3 paid $246.60 for $1

To put that into perspective, a 4/5 shot wins the 9th paying $3.80.....the pick 3 in races 7,8,9 paid $3,178.90 for $1.

John Greenhaw
01-06-2012, 07:07 AM
One player in Canada put up a big pick 3 play, basically playing against himself with a thursday small pool.
That pick-3 payoff is just plain wrong, and makes you wonder who that Canadian player is?

DiscreetCat
01-11-2012, 07:14 AM
I'm on the 1 in this race at price as well. Also the word is the 12 outworked a stakes horse and they are worried about the post. But book for next out.


gl, fb

Just ran across something interesting. The #12 mentioned by FB here was a David Braddy firster from Calder (ridden by Manoel Cruz) named Good Morning Diva, who then went out i this race and ran third @ 75/1. Great info btw, FB.

Looking over today's second race @ Gulfstream, the #1 horse Jaime's Boy is coming out of the exact same drill as Good Morning Diva, that being a 17th-of-40 gate move on Dec 24 @ Calder. Different trainer here, but note that the same rider (Manoel Cruz) is on board today. Also note that this trainer (Steve Towne, who also happens to own this horse) is 5-for-9 with Cruz, including 4-for-8 @ Gulfstream. Could be live here at a monster price...

fbwinners
01-11-2012, 09:00 AM
Just ran across something interesting. The #12 mentioned by FB here was a David Braddy firster from Calder (ridden by Manoel Cruz) named Good Morning Diva, who then went out i this race and ran third @ 75/1. Great info btw, FB.

Looking over today's second race @ Gulfstream, the #1 horse Jaime's Boy is coming out of the exact same drill as Good Morning Diva, that being a 17th-of-40 gate move on Dec 24 @ Calder. Different trainer here, but note that the same rider (Manoel Cruz) is on board today. Also note that this trainer (Steve Towne, who also happens to own this horse) is 5-for-9 with Cruz, including 4-for-8 @ Gulfstream. Could be live here at a monster price...



The word on Jamie's Boy is solid today, I was also told to use Dreaming of Neno in this race as well. You should get prices on both these today as the big boys have runners in this one as well.

gl, fb

DiscreetCat
01-11-2012, 10:31 AM
Dreaming of Neno worked heads-up from the gate on Dec 14 with Need You Tonight, who came out of that drill to run 5th in a two-turn grass race. She did set the pace for 6 furlongs though, and ended up only beaten about 3 lengths at the wire. Same rider (Paco Lopez) aboard today, btw. Nice numbers on the Canani/Lopez combo too, hitting 33% from over a hundred mounts.

Btw, FWIW i wasn't able to find anything of note on the Pletcher entrant. Or the Catalano entrant (no works with his impressive winner Gentleman's Bet, in case you were wondering).

DiscreetCat
01-11-2012, 10:49 AM
Dreaming of Neno wins @ 5/2, nice info FB!

Jaime's Boy was scratched.

fbwinners
01-11-2012, 12:02 PM
Dreaming of Neno wins @ 5/2, nice info FB!

Jaime's Boy was scratched.


Three scratches killed the price, 8/1 ml and goest off at 5/2. A winner is a winner.


fb

dirtyshirt
01-11-2012, 05:51 PM
I've been doing this a long time.......nothing good is going to come out of what happened in the pick 3 sequence of races 6,7,8 today.
$11/$49.60/$69.40 and the pick 3 paid $246.60 for $1

To put that into perspective, a 4/5 shot wins the 9th paying $3.80.....the pick 3 in races 7,8,9 paid $3,178.90 for $1.

Wait what? I never saw this. I don't get how that happened. Luck? Scam?

Trotman
01-11-2012, 06:39 PM
Reports are a bet was made in canada with a single in the first leg, all in the second leg, and 2 horses in the third leg...one of them being the 69 dollar winner....I heard the other horse played was the horse that ran second..the bet was 110 part wheel...thus 110 times 246 takes down about 27K less about a 2 grand wager....the third leg looks very suspect

dirtyshirt
01-11-2012, 07:17 PM
Reports are a bet was made in canada with a single in the first leg, all in the second leg, and 2 horses in the third leg...one of them being the 69 dollar winner....I heard the other horse played was the horse that ran second..the bet was 110 part wheel...thus 110 times 246 takes down about 27K less about a 2 grand wager....the third leg looks very suspect

Certainly should be looked at. Seems more than suspect.

DiscreetCat
01-12-2012, 07:57 AM
Because everyone makes $110 Pick Three bets where they go Single, All, and then two big longshots in the last leg. But if they say that's what happened, then i guess it must be true....

http://jimmyaquino.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c09fc53ef01156f1ee132970c-800wi

DiscreetCat
02-01-2012, 01:32 AM
Just ran across something interesting. The #12 mentioned by FB here was a David Braddy firster from Calder (ridden by Manoel Cruz) named Good Morning Diva, who then went out i this race and ran third @ 75/1. Great info btw, FB.

Looking over today's second race @ Gulfstream, the #1 horse Jaime's Boy is coming out of the exact same drill as Good Morning Diva, that being a 17th-of-40 gate move on Dec 24 @ Calder. Different trainer here, but note that the same rider (Manoel Cruz) is on board today. Also note that this trainer (Steve Towne, who also happens to own this horse) is 5-for-9 with Cruz, including 4-for-8 @ Gulfstream. Could be live here at a monster price...

Just an FYI, Jamie's Boy has turned up in today's 3rd @ Gulfstream, the same race as Austin Brown. Looks like he was probably scratched from the Jan 11 race due to some kind of physical problem, because he's listed as a vet scratch, and is showing only one recorded workout during the last 5 weeks. Remains an interesting entrant, however. Note that Manoel Cruz is listed once again.

John Greenhaw
02-01-2012, 04:13 AM
Everyone probably already knows this, but if you are comparing times from Florida tracks, right now GP is tuned for racing and the times are a little faster. PMM is next and is alot slower than GP because it is set up for training Surprisingly, Calder is considered to be the slowest times, so this may offer a little food for thought when comparing these Fl horses.

fbwinners
02-01-2012, 06:26 AM
I will be using Heavy Duty, Affair and Bizarro along with Austin Brown in today's race. Heavy Duty looks sneaky to me off his first out and has some nice works since that one. I will box the following below in this race for exotics.

1-2-3-6-7-10 - looking for a big exotic payoff in a wide open msw

John Greenhaw
02-01-2012, 08:40 AM
I hate to go against my colt in here, but that rail post hurts, and the ml is a joke, 5/2. I think that Zito horse will show speed, #3 Heavy Duty 12-1, and the
#5 Induce, 12-1, was a $300k buy who lost all chance at start of only start and was taken up early. The 6 & 8 look like players too and I would have made the #8 the ml fav at around 3-1

Guess I'm playing a 1-3-6-8 exotic and hope AB gets a good check, but really hope he shows something positive that we can build on for his future.

DiscreetCat
02-01-2012, 11:08 AM
Sorry John. I was rooting for you.

John Greenhaw
02-01-2012, 11:24 AM
Yeah. I thought he ran pretty green and didn't like dirt in his face. Problem is he failed to show any speed. Anxiously awaiting word from Javier but at this point he needs the light to come on and realize if he doesn't want dirt in his face he needs to run faster. Always expect improvement 2nd out but he will need a shitload of improvement!!! Slight bump at the start but all in there got bumped, problem was, and is,, lack of speed!

fbwinners
02-01-2012, 12:49 PM
Quick question he was bought for 100k in the March sales and worked real well, then in the June sales he breezed great and only sold for 90k?????

John Greenhaw
02-01-2012, 04:02 PM
RNA' at keeneland for $200k--- then went thru OBS where he again RNA for $100k, this time with works at 10.1 and 21.2. Bought privately for $90k and was ready to go to Spa for summer races as a 2 yo and came up with bucked shins. Pin-fired and rest and works before he went to Florida with TAP. Has not re-gained his in-tack training form and is probably a good case exAMPLE OF WHY YOU SHOULD not run 2yo at that pace. I am a firm believer in that it does irreparable harm! LIVE AND LEARN!!!!

I'm calling King tonight and having him be on the lookout for a cheap OP claimer so I will have something with a future!

John Greenhaw
02-01-2012, 04:30 PM
FB

Sorry, I' drinking and putting out inaccurate info, but the figures are close. Austin Brown's two year old in training work was something special, but it has cost him and he will never be the same. Too bad these races are not a beauty contest, he was the best looking colt in this race with muscle on top of muscle. Just that he will not extend himself due to injury sustained as a result of OBS work!!! Let me know if you see anything at FG, preferably from Amoss barn, that we can steal in a clm race! I'd like nothing better than to screw slick Tommy out of a good one!!!

fbwinners
02-08-2012, 08:53 PM
8th race - Gulfstream Park - January 05, 2012
Video Race Replay

Pgm Horse Win Place Show
1 Gentlemen's Bet 69.40 26.60 17.40
6 Nonno's Boy 6.40 5.00
12 Good Morning Diva 22.20



Good Morning Diva is back in on Saturday in Race 2 at Gulfstream.

DiscreetCat
02-11-2012, 09:22 AM
I'm on the 1 in this race at price as well. Also the word is the 12 outworked a stakes horse and they are worried about the post. But book for next out.


gl, fb

Race 2, my friend.......Good Morning Diva

Edit: Nevermind, i didn't see you had already bumped it.

DiscreetCat
02-11-2012, 10:25 AM
Boom! Thanks for the heads-up on this guy... :toast:

fbwinners
04-17-2012, 08:59 PM
Boom! Thanks for the heads-up on this guy... :toast:



Good Morning Diva won back again on Saturday at Calder, I missed it!!! Do you get a piece of him.


fb

DiscreetCat
04-17-2012, 11:08 PM
No, i missed it also...

fbwinners
03-13-2013, 03:00 PM
8th race - Gulfstream Park - January 05, 2012
Video Race Replay

Pgm Horse Win Place Show
1 Gentlemen's Bet 69.40 26.60 17.40
6 Nonno's Boy 6.40 5.00
12 Good Morning Diva 22.20



Some of us caught this one last year at 1st asking and I forgot to tell you all he finally came off the bench and ran at Oaklawn and won for fun off the shelf and is back in the 11th on Saturday at Oaklwan. Must be sound as he is back in 5 weeks.

dirtyshirt
03-13-2013, 03:40 PM
Yeah. He won an optional claimer with a huge purse right? Funny it's a colt named Diva.

John Greenhaw
03-13-2013, 05:44 PM
Gentlemens bet going up from 16k clm at OP to 35k---this jump would usually be a reason to pass---but check out latest work--1:00 flat on a dull surface--and Robbie A rides---which means 8/5 at best----but this one will be a single on my pick 4---Moquettes son is a former student of my brother, and word is this is a new horse since coming back!

fbwinners
03-13-2013, 05:49 PM
Gentlemens bet going up from 16k clm at OP to 35k---this jump would usually be a reason to pass---but check out latest work--1:00 flat on a dull surface--and Robbie A rides---which means 8/5 at best----but this one will be a single on my pick 4---Moquettes son is a former student of my brother, and word is this is a new horse since coming back!


As my other post states I got this one from a Catman connection and all the stable money was with books and offshore that is why the price was right. If Good Morning Diva would of drawn better that day my exacta would of been over 10k on my end. But I had 200 wps and you that's no bull shit as you seen me wager at Belmont park and it was nice to cash for 5 figures that day. But the form don't tell you that and he looks to b sound as he is back in 5 weeks and a work in between should run away and hide. I need to check to see if he is a double top on my speed nubers I use.

fbwinners
04-12-2013, 10:10 PM
Some of us caught this one last year at 1st asking and I forgot to tell you all he finally came off the bench and ran at Oaklawn and won for fun off the shelf and is back in the 11th on Saturday at Oaklwan. Must be sound as he is back in 5 weeks.



He is back in a stakes race today at Oaklawn. Tough race but this one is a runner and has drawn the rail and will pop when the gates open.

John Greenhaw
04-13-2013, 12:10 AM
I like him alot---- but here is the problem. In the last three days, I have seen Calvin win on horses drawn on the rail, but he has them coming from out in the middle of the track. If Robbie thinks he can keep him on the rail and save ground, he will fade late and finish up off the board, as the OP rail is as dead as it has ever been. I would think Albarado knows this by now, and Gentlemens Bet will be angle out turning for home, if he has room? Apprehender is the wild card in here, as he burned a shitload of money in his last and finished up the track. Its not a big field so you have to think that the post doesn't matter, but it does as all the major players are drawn inside.

DiscreetCat
04-13-2013, 09:34 AM
Gotta like that morning line, if nothing else. Not real happy with the draw though. Might need to take back and move up outside, and it'll be hard giving away ground to these types of horses. He's in with a shot though, for sure. Good luck to anyone who plays him.

fbwinners
06-29-2013, 11:07 AM
He came back and beat Delauney last night at Praire in easy fashion. Been a real good forum horse.